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Lithic Material; Spherulitic Rhyolite
Sep 17th, 2011 at 10:20am
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Atleast that's what I'm calling it for now.
Some geologists agree, some don't, and some just shake
their heads.
The first thing most artifact collectors, archaeologists, and
knappers say when I show them this stuff is, "They didn't
knap that!"  But I have collected a couple of 5 gallon buckets
worth of flakes and lithic debitage from the surface of the
source site in Person County, NC, and have turned in samples
to several of the different institutions that have NC lithic
collections as proof of it's prehistoric use.
It may not have been used much, but it was used some.

Here are a couple of blocks I cut from the rough.

Pics 1,2,3

As with all rocks you will find a variety within the same
species. Here are a few slabs for variety leaning against
a large piece of the rough.
Pic 4

But I have never seen a projectile point made from this
material and have only ever found one flake of the material
off the source site. I found this flake outside of Scotland
Neck in Halifax County about 80 miles east of the source.
It is sitting on a slab of some of the same material.
The slab is wet and the flake is dry for contrast.
Pic 5

One problem with getting a definite identification on this
rock is it's age, 550 million years give or take 50 million,
and the extent it has morphed or degraded into what we
now have. One identifying characteristic of Spherulitic
Rhyolites are radiating lines from the center of the spheres.
This material has none. Have they degraded away?
Another interesting trait of this material is there is no
difference in grain size anywhere in the material. Inside the
spheres is the same as outside of them. Could this be that
it has all morphed now to the same composition?
Here are a couple photomicrographs of the spheres to show
the homogenous make up of the material now.
Pics 6 & 7

I hope to add more pics of this material in the future.
Joe


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Re: Lithic Material; Spherulitic Rhyolite
Reply #1 - Sep 17th, 2011 at 12:50pm
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Joe this is incredible material.  Really like the cube you have created.  Would like to get some to study in person.  My Mom is into artifacts and would find this very interesting. Points would be very impressive.  Hope you find some. Smiley
  
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Reply #2 - Sep 19th, 2011 at 9:20am
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Wow! I love that big cube! Very interesting material too.

Are those circles from air bubbles or drops cooling in mud (volcanic flow, etc.) or are they organic? Trapped organisms? I would love to see this stuff compared to the rhyolite from other areas.

I ask because there is a weird material over here that seems like quartzite, but different, and within this material are some fossils. Oh never mind, pictures will speak for themselves. I swear I am going to post my finds of what I believe to be Knox chert and I will include this stuff too. I promise the pics/post are coming soon, Joe. Here is one pic of the knox chert (or what I believe to be), though.
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Reply #3 - Sep 19th, 2011 at 9:02pm
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Glad you like it, John. I'm sure we can find a piece or two
for your collection. Most will argue with you about it being
knapping material, tho, so be prepared. I've been slabbing it
on and off now for a couple of years and need to go thru
and do some inventory and see what I got. I'd like to sit
down and knock out about 2 dozen cabs real quick, too. Roll Eyes

Yes Rebecca, that's one of the first things folks wonder
about when they first see it; Is it organic? Is it a fossil?
For now I'm assuming the answer to both questions is No.
I'm guessing it's more of a magma "soup" that collected
in a "saddle" of a ridge and cooled fairly slowly. Possibly
deposited by thick clouds of ash???

Nice looking pieces you've got there. Thanks for the pic.
It looks to be really clear, fine-grained material. I wonder
if they are both the same material? Can't really tell if it's
chalcedony, chert, or quartz from the pic. Going to have to
see it in person. Looks like fine material what ever it is!

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Reply #4 - Sep 21st, 2011 at 11:23am
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I am pretty sure they are the same material. I will start another thread on it when I get around to that, because now I think that is not actually Knox chert, but definitely a used material.

I would love to see what a slice of the spherulitic rhyolite looks like illuminated from behind. Thin slices of that stuff turned into a luminary or a cover for a pendant light. This way you get to have the rocks all around you in your house - functional art. They get to live and not be quarantined to display only. I only have so much horizontal space for displays (especially since I got a kitten).
  
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Reply #5 - Sep 22nd, 2011 at 9:45am
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Absolutely top notch stuff there Joe.  I forgot how awesome that stuff was.  I love that block.
  

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Reply #6 - Sep 30th, 2011 at 11:20am
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hey joe, i was reading about rocks last night and there was a mention of "rhythmic crystallization" for orbicular diorite. the end result is the same as this, orbs and circles. it didn't say what caused the rhythmic crystallization, though. but this is very curious. have you heard of this?
  
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Reply #7 - Sep 30th, 2011 at 1:16pm
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Very Good, Rebecca!  Smiley It just might be a diorite.
Granite and Rhyolite are very similar. To over simplify;
Granite is a Plutonic form of the extrusive Rhyolite.
The chemistry of my Spherulitic could be the same as the
Orbicular Diorite, but I have no idea when those tests might
be done, if ever.
I think the only reason why Rhyolite might be a better name
for it than Diorite is because of where and how it formed.
It is found on a Rhyolitic ridge several miles long.

There is a famous locality in Davie Co., NC, for the
Orbicular Diorite that I have always wanted to collect some
samples from, but it is on private property and I don't
know if you can get to it these days even with permission.

You can Google NC Orbicular Diorite to see some pics of
the material.
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Reply #8 - Sep 30th, 2011 at 5:48pm
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Joe the Orbicular Diorite location is closed but I have some from when it was open.  If you would like some, I will be glad to get some to you.  I was studying some this week. I was looking at the Monazites that are in this material. Cheesy
  
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Re: Lithic Material; Spherulitic Rhyolite
Reply #9 - Oct 1st, 2011 at 6:17am
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Sounds great, John!
Hold your horses, but don't hold your breath, I got to get
a package in the post to you first. Wink
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Reply #10 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 9:18am
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Very interesting, Joe. AND very interesting about the monazite in orbicular diorite. I love monazite and have been collecting it here and there. I would love to see a picture of the monazite in the orbicular diorite.

From my understanding, diorite is a catch-all name. The Easter Island monoliths are made from a diorite. And what I have dug in over in NC is a diorite too. They don't even resemble each other. I can't seem to find diorite on mindat either.

Back to the rhythmic crystallization: what could cause that? extreme temperature flux? An external force seems unlikely, given the span of time needed to make a rock. Seems likely to be bubbles cooling slowly - a self-perpetuating force, an internal force. Or maybe it cooled to the rhythm of the earth, encapsulating that movement/energy in a graphic representation.  Cool Time for more coffee...
  
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Reply #11 - Oct 4th, 2011 at 7:43pm
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Well, Hey Rebecca,
Why didn't you find Diorite on Mindat?
There's a good, simple reason.  Wink

You've probably read this already but here's a link to
Diorite defined by Wikipedia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diorite

And you're going to want to understand the difference
between "intrusive" and "extrusive" igneous rocks to figure
out what the one I pictured above may be.

Hope you've had your coffee. Smiley
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Reply #12 - Oct 11th, 2011 at 11:05am
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Thanks for the link Joe. Really, I didn't want to know the difference between in- and ex-trusive, but I did need to know; and it turned out to be very interesting. I just wanted to be lazy about it and rely on you filling in the blanks for me.  Grin Now I know all about igneous rock, but can't find my keys! Thanks Joe.  Grin

I remember you not believing me when I found basalt over here in TN, but I really think it is. To me, it seem there were volcanoes all over the place a long, long time ago....like in the beginning?  Shocked
  
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Reply #13 - Feb 5th, 2012 at 6:12pm
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Just want to add a couple more recent pics I've taken of
this material.
The first pic is of a couple of recent slabs.
The second is the first ever finished point/blade I've seen
made out of this stuff. I know it was utilized by the
aboriginals because of all the lithic debitage on the ground
at the source site. I have also found "one" flake of the material
in Halifax County east of the source. This blade was found in
Granville County, also east of the source and the first
"finished" artifact I've seen made from it.
This material was most likely only utilized during the
Archaic Period.

  

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Reply #14 - Feb 6th, 2012 at 7:50pm
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Splendid point!  I think you should call the material "Clouded Leopard Rhyolite".

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