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Oct 4th, 2018 at 8:17pm
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Joe asked if I have found any artifacts and the answer is yes!........at least I think so.  Here is one of my questionable pieces.  One side is perfectly flat like it was cut by a laser. It also has the right size and ergonomics to be a tool but I'm not sure of its purpose or how one would get it so flat and smooth without power tools.
  

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Reply #1 - Oct 4th, 2018 at 9:57pm
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That may have been ground down by the big ice cube, or it could have been one of Joe or Scott's practice rocks.  Roll Eyes
  
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Reply #2 - Oct 4th, 2018 at 10:40pm
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I also noticed some strange scratching on one part. Could be glacial scratching but I find it hard to believe the flat surface would be glacial. Most of our rocks are rounded like river rocks.
  

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Reply #3 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 12:20am
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Rocks can be rolled along the sides of or in front of a glacier or ground flat underneath them.
  
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Reply #4 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:22am
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Well that's certainly an interesting rock. I'm not as versed in artifacts as Joe but if this rock was produced through natural causes I'd say it was caught up in the side or bottom of the glacier and as it moved along the rock was ground flat on that edge. In which case it would be called a glacial erratic.  Maybe Joe will chime in soon.
  

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Reply #5 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 10:22am
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Thanks for the pic, farmdude. That flat surface certainly does look "lasered"! It is amazing how straight and flat it is!
But I don't see any manually "ground" surface on it. The wear on the flat surface all seems to trend in the same direction so I am going to have to agree with Scott that it is a "geofact" or "glacial erratic".
A great example of how nature, in this case a glacier, can alter rocks. These "geofacts" are often utilized by man since they are all ready suitable but I don't see any "use wear" on this stone.
We don't see examples of this down here, so it is very nice to see such a good example.

Here are a few pics of an artifact hammer/grinding stone for comparison. Note, if you can, how smoothed the bottom ground surface is. The sides of the stone were for percussive hammer like strikes which eventually wear the stone into the overall round shape and there are a few Plow-strikes evident. Pic 1 is top, Pic 2 bottom, Pic 3 side.

  

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Reply #6 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 12:33pm
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What do you think of this one?
  

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Reply #7 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:07pm
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Ya know, farmdude, rocks like this and a lot of "ground" rocks in general are a real hard call, and I, just looking at a picture, am in no position to say for sure one way or another.
Lots of times you have to look at it with magnification. Maybe you can see how it was made or ground?
It also makes a big difference if you find these in an area you are seeing other artifacts or not. That would increase it's chance of being utilized. Sometimes natural formations have been utilized making it a little of both. Often highly finished objects were inspired by their natural shapes.
My rule of thumb is; "If it is one, you'll know it." Meaning, if it is an artifact, and has been used, then it ought to have been used enough for you to plainly see that.  Cool

I'm thinking geofact for this rock but would be happy if you found out otherwise.  Wink
  
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Reply #8 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 7:22pm
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Ppsstttt... I think it's looking at you Joe..  Huh
  
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Reply #9 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 8:31pm
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Thanks for the interest Joe. It doesn't bother me if it's a geofact. I think it's just as cool if an interesting rock was formed by a glacier rather than early man. I just think its neat to post my finds to a place where someone appreciates them like I do. Here's another geo/artifact. Tongue
  

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Reply #10 - Oct 5th, 2018 at 9:37pm
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Well I'm glad you're picking them up!
I keep looking at the first "lasered" piece. The more I look at it the more it looks like a clean break, but it's hard to imagine it breaking that straight by natural forces. Very interesting rocks! Smiley Lots of questions!

This last piece looks like what I've heard called a "potlid" in pottery, where the rock was in a fire and a "spall" popped off in a circle shape like that. And say that it is. Was the now-indented rock then used for something? I don't know.
Lots of questions.
You're going to have to get yourself a loupe, farmdude. Start taking a closer look at them.  Wink
  
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Reply #11 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 4:20pm
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Hey farmdude, I don't know if you're still checking in or not. I know we weren't much help.
But I found a couple good examples of why it's hard to jump to the conclusion that these weird geofacts were the product of human activity.
There is nothing new. Nature has all ready done it all! Wink

There are several famous "split-rocks" around the world. Here is a link to one in New Zealand.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tokangawh%C4%81_/_Split_Apple_Rock

And here's an example of what nature can do from the Colorado School of Mines Museum.
  

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Reply #12 - Oct 20th, 2018 at 10:18pm
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Here are afew from Wake/Harnett county.  When you come across one you will know.  Very Distinctive “bowl” shape.
  

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Reply #13 - Oct 24th, 2018 at 9:57pm
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awesome. thanks for the tips guys. I will keep an eye out.
  
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Reply #14 - Oct 26th, 2018 at 8:26pm
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I may have found one.  One side feels smooth like it was for grinding. Also has a groove. Thoughts?
  

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