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This Quiz is Much Easier!
Aug 9th, 2012 at 7:17pm
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Since there were positive response to my last quiz, I decided to do another this week.  Sorry, I couldn't help myself. 

This quiz is much easier than the "Carolina 6 Pack", because there is only one specimen to identify, not several to tax your brain.  I will give you the locality because you will not find it on Mindat.org or any other source.  In addition to this, the locality has been gone a long time. 

Here goes:

This specimen was collected by Laurie Adams in the 1980s along a new road cut on Bolton Street, Winston-Salem, Forsyth Co., NC.

There are three primary minerals on the surface, two are dominant, and the third is a minor constituent.  Identify all three, but I am mainly looking for the names of the two primary ones.  I will give clues after the first round of guesses.  Good luck.

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Reply #1 - Aug 9th, 2012 at 9:14pm
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Just couldn't help yourself, ey Dennis.
But, yes, this one is much easier. HA! Smiley

Before I get started I have a question.
Are all three minerals visible in the close-up shot as well.
I am wondering if the big light brown lump in the bottom left
of the first pic is one of the minerals to be identified, leaving
only two visible in the close-up?

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Reply #2 - Aug 9th, 2012 at 10:26pm
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Good point, Joe.  I should have mentioned that.  The two main minerals are in the closeup and the third can be seen in the lower part (especially lower left) of the mineral in the full shot.

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Reply #3 - Aug 9th, 2012 at 10:49pm
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Hmm. Stilbite, prehnite, calcite.
  

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Reply #4 - Aug 10th, 2012 at 9:02am
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Yes, Scott, that's what I was thinking, but I am also thinking
there must be a catch. Wink
You guessed the most sensible and obvious choices and I
agree with them. Just to get some of the other obvious
possibilities tried, I'll go with;
white = Stilbite
grey druze = Calcite
brown = Tremolite

But I got the strangest feeling that Dennis is going to try
and tell us the white crystals are Kutnohorite.



  
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Reply #5 - Aug 10th, 2012 at 5:05pm
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Darn you guys are good, but Joe, you know I would not make it that easy.

Scott guessed Prehnite (pale green druzy crystals) and Calcite (the tan blob) correctly.  Now, what could the white crystals be?

Here are the only clues I will give at this time.  The mineral is a hydrated calcium-aluminium silicate in the Zeolite group, and is uncommon, but not rare in NC.

I can hear the gears turning already. 

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Reply #6 - Aug 10th, 2012 at 6:17pm
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Should've been my first guess.  Wink

  

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Reply #7 - Aug 10th, 2012 at 7:12pm
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Hey guys,

Not having anywhere near the depth of knowledge of either joe or scott when it comes to minerals of North Carolina the white minerals dispaying accicular habit look very much like laumontite that we see in some of the northeast's trap rock quarries

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Reply #8 - Aug 10th, 2012 at 8:50pm
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Good guess and good to hear from you, John.
Glad you survived the Round-Up. Smiley
Laumontite is probably right, but even if it isn't you get
great schmooz points. The day I, (speaking personally), ever
know half as much as you about minerals and geology from NC
or anywhere else is the day the polarity changes. Wink
Thanks for chiming in,
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Reply #9 - Aug 10th, 2012 at 9:31pm
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I like the scolecite answer too.
  

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Reply #10 - Aug 10th, 2012 at 10:28pm
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Congratulations, John.  You guessed it --- it's Laumontite. 

As you know, this mineral loses water rapidly when exposed to air and turns to white dust.  This specimen was treated with a glue mixture sprayed on to preserve it by Laurie Adams after he found it.  It's held up really well over the 20+ years since it was collected.

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Reply #11 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 10:48am
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Well i failed the quiz but i have questions about the answers.

I read that the Laumontite forms in vesicles of volcanic rock are these similar to the pockets we hunt for when searching quartz veins?

Does Zeolite describe a crystalline structure or is it describing the conditions of which the materials were formed? 

Are Zeolites and fluorescent minerals related in some way?  North Carolina and New Jersey both produce Zeolites and fluorescent minerals in close proximity to one another, is that just coincidence or is there a relationship between the formation of the two minerals groups?
  
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Reply #12 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 3:21pm
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RR,

I am in no way a professional chemist, mineralogist, or geologist -- just an old rockhound that has learned a lot from many folks much smarter than me and reading all I can about NC minerals.  I will try to answer your questions as best I can.  I'm sure Joe, Scott, John and others will chime in and correct me or add to what I have to offer.

Zeolites are microporous, hydrated aluminosilicate minerals.  What makes them special is their ability to absorb water, and the water molecules are reflected in their chemical structure. Some examples of mineral zeolites are analcime, chabazite, clinoptilolite, heulandite, laumontite, natrolite, phillipsite, pollucite, scolecite, stilbite, and thomsonite.  These are only a few of the many that have been described.

As you mentioned, zeolites were formed and occur in volcanic rocks and hydrothermal veins, and the best examples occur in basalt (India).  Since real basalt is rare in NC where are these zeolites found?  Igneous rocks (volcanic in origin) occur throughout the Piedmont and mountains in the form of andesites, diabases, diorites, granites (pegmatites), gneisses, rhyolite, and others.  Although zeolites do not necassarily occur in all of these rocks, many of the large Martin-Marietta quarries in the Central Piedmont of NC are known for zeolites, such as stilbite, chabazite, and laumontite. 

As far as I know, fluorescents do not form that close to zeolites in NC, other than calcite.  Most fluorecents in NC are mainly calcite, hyalite opal, autunite (and other rare uranium minerals), corundum var. ruby, and fluorite.  I'm sure there are others I'm forgetting.  Most NJ fluorescents do not occur in NC, such as willemite and others known from the Franklin district.

I hope this was helpful.

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Reply #13 - Aug 11th, 2012 at 6:34pm
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Thanks dennis, i'm about as knowledgeable as a rock so it was very helpful.
  
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Reply #14 - Aug 13th, 2012 at 2:55pm
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Hey joe,

Thanks for the kind words, but I noticed my compass has not been working very well lately Grin

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