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Jan 16th, 2024 at 11:47am
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Any thoughts on what these symbols or writing may be ? Found on my farm in McDowell County Treasure Valley where I have found European pottery & stoneware in the past ?

  
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Reply #1 - Jan 16th, 2024 at 12:47pm
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Looks like a crock.
  
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Reply #2 - Jan 16th, 2024 at 12:56pm
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The one on the bottom right, those almost look like shamrocks on the bottom
of that plate shard. Irish?
  
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Reply #3 - Jan 16th, 2024 at 3:41pm
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I was looking more at the round type circle on the right one thinking of a gallon or bigger sized crock.
Everything back then was all handmade type.
  
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Reply #4 - Jan 16th, 2024 at 8:45pm
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I got your crock, Buckshot! Cheesy
Back when I was in the archaeology lab I used to enjoy trying to identify historic ceramic sherds. I mean atleast they'd sign it!

All those cracks on the surface of the piece on the left is a tell tale sign of a stoneware called Ironstone. Ironstone is a stoneware that was used widely from 1813 - 1900 and on into the 1900's by some. Ironstone was known for that cracked surface which is called, "crazing".
Don't have a positive ID on your piece there, but I am guessing it was made in Great Britain by the Minton company, Europes' leading ceramic factory from 1793 - 1968, when they merged with another company. I'm guessing, but am not sure, that this piece is from a series called, "Amherst Japan Stone Ware" circa 1850. Here's a link to picture of what I am thinking is your mark.
https://www.worthpoint.com/marks/ceramics/mark-76043_scroll-amherst-japan

But I'm pretty confident the piece on the right was made by "Goodwin Bros", Liverpool, Ohio, 1844 - 1898. They were also making Ironstone, but in 1875 when the father died, the Bros developed their own Ironstone ceramic using local clay and called it "Pearl White", and I think that is what you found a piece of, 1875-1900.
Here's a link that shows the whole mark. Scroll down to Goodwin Bros.
https://www.themuseumofceramics.com/gallery6

  
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Reply #5 - Jan 17th, 2024 at 7:55am
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JoeM you are a walking computer you are amazing!
At least I knew a little bit about crocks/china ware.
  
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Reply #6 - Jan 17th, 2024 at 9:56am
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Thanks Joe, looks like you nailed for sure it on the 2nd piece Goodwin.
I agree with what IDLassie said, you're a wealth of knowledge.
  
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Reply #7 - Jan 17th, 2024 at 10:51am
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I've had a little experience identifying historic sherds and it has always been fun if you have a little of the mark to make a little game out of it, like a jigsaw puzzle.
Yes, I'm not really convinced on the "Amherst Japan" piece.
You know the way to tell earthenware from stoneware is earthenware will slightly stick to your tongue and stoneware won't. You may have to start licking those pieces, Buckshot. Smiley
  
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Reply #8 - Jan 17th, 2024 at 1:23pm
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Tongue Lips Sealed Undecided
  
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